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Post by Classickat on Sept 28, 2020 3:33:52 GMT
My zoom interview with Jerry Lewis fan, Alan Goldfarb on working on Slapstick of Another Kind, working with Jerry Lewis, Madeleine Kahn, etc, and other people he got to meet with during his career such as Frank Sinatra. We also discuss Alan's opinions on Jerry Lewis' films.
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Post by Jessica on Sept 28, 2020 17:48:15 GMT
Great intrview, thanks for sharing! I really liked to hear your point of views on Jerry's films and the way he played his characters. That is interesting to me, how he sometimes really turned into his character, but sometimes he was just Jerry. I guess that is one of the reasons my favorite of his is "The Nutty Professor" because he played those parts so well.
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Post by Classickat on Sept 29, 2020 2:53:44 GMT
aajjgg Something that I didn't say on the video, was that some of the writers on M&L films didn't think Dean could even talk or they didn't have the faith in him to be funny on screen. I've gotta say that Dean did get at least half of the funny lines at least in Scared Stiff, which were the exact same lines as Bob Hope did. And they just didn't come off as funny at all when Dean said them. Dean wasn't funny reciting Bob Hope lines. So he was given the opportunity with funny lines there, it just didn't suit his type of funny.
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Post by denise on Sept 29, 2020 12:31:21 GMT
aajjgg As for Dean not getting funny lines in the M&L films: Norman Lear stated that he and his writing partner, Ed Simmons, tried several times to give Dean funny lines, but it was producer Hal Wallis who always rejected them. He wanted Jerry to be the funny one. And the producer has the last word. Another remark, on Jerry not accepting the role in Some Like It Hot: I think Kat mentioned that at the same time, Jerry was filming Don't Give Up the Ship. That was for Hal Wallis, and I think Jerry did not have much say in when filming would take place. He still had to work off his "film debt" to Wallis after the split from Dean. Even if he had wanted to take the role, I don't know if and how long Billy Wilder could/would have waited until Jerry was available. Jerry also had his own film projects in the pipeline.
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Post by Jessica on Sept 29, 2020 14:54:17 GMT
Appearently, both Dean and Jerry complained about getting repetitive roles. When Jerry was a guest on "What's my line", he got the question from Arelene Francis, "Are you the funniest one of the two?" He didn't want to respond to that because to him, Dean was the funniest man he knew. Francis later corrected herself and basically referred to his public image as the funnier one.
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Post by aajjgg on Sept 29, 2020 16:55:43 GMT
My point being re with Hal Wallis he could have fought for Dean to get better parts and better lines and I am sure it would have happened. Instead Jerry was demanding more solo songs for their movies and Deans songs be reduced. If anything it has been documented if Dean got a funny ad-lib in rehearsel on The Colgate Comedy Hour for the live show Jerry would steal the line. He would also be "sick" if Dean got to many laughs or to much attention . You can actually hear Jerry say in A Colgate Comedy Hour to the band " I told you not to laugh" when Dean ad-libs a funny line. You can say he was kidding but as Jerry has said himself "There is allot of truth in comedy." Anyways hope you enjoyed the interview.
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Post by audi on Sept 29, 2020 23:00:35 GMT
It is well documented that Hal Wallis is the reason that Dean was minimized in the Paramount films.
Jerry is the one who should've fought for Dean.
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Post by Classickat on Sept 30, 2020 9:38:10 GMT
My point being re with Hal Wallis he could have fought for Dean to get better parts and better lines and I am sure it would have happened. Instead Jerry was demanding more solo songs for their movies and Deans songs be reduced. If anything it has been documented if Dean got a funny ad-lib in rehearsel on The Colgate Comedy Hour for the live show Jerry would steal the line. He would also be "sick" if Dean got to many laughs or to much attention . You can actually hear Jerry say in A Colgate Comedy Hour to the band " I told you not to laugh" when Dean ad-libs a funny line. You can say he was kidding but as Jerry has said himself "There is allot of truth in comedy." Anyways hope you enjoyed the interview. I wonder what adlibbed lines were "stolen" on CCH. Most of the adlibbing seemed to happen in the moment with accidents happening during the live show. None of Jerry's adlibs seemed to be other than what was in the moment, and you never once see a look from Dean at Jerry to imply that Jerry had stolen his funny adlib from rehearsal. The dramatic look in the Martin and Lewis biopic that Dean gives Jerry when his line was stolen, is ridiculous and overdramatic. And the real life sketch that they did, Dean never even looks at Jerry during the supposedly stolen "Nuremburg trial" line. It's also interesting to note that Dean and Jerry both would continually use that joke/line other times, especially Jerry throughout the decades. Dean does say some funny stuff occasionally on CCH, and you can see when Jerry laughs. I think he got sensitive from time to time, but not all the time. Maybe part of his comment "I told you not to laugh" was in jest, and the rest was him being insecure. You can hear him saying similar things on the radio show and other tv episodes. I think it would have been a great idea for the writers to have a sketch in which Dean and Jerry switched talents or bodies, and Jerry got to sing straight and Dean got to be the crazy funny one. Then they both would have got what they really wanted to do. I wonder if they would have gone for an idea like that.
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Post by aajjgg on Sept 30, 2020 14:14:30 GMT
I always thought Boeing Boeing would have made a really interesting Martin and lewis film (with Dean in the Tony curtis role) since Jerry would basically be palying straight man to Dean.
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Post by Jessica on Sept 30, 2020 15:08:37 GMT
I think it would have been a great idea for the writers to have a sketch in which Dean and Jerry switched talents or bodies, and Jerry got to sing straight and Dean got to be the crazy funny one. Then they both would have got what they really wanted to do. I wonder if they would have gone for an idea like that. I would have loved a sketch or even a film with that idea. Imagine the thetrical poster being like: MARTIN is LEWIS - LEWIS is MARTIN.
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Post by denise on Sept 30, 2020 16:33:46 GMT
Jerry wrote that he and Dean sometimes switched roles in their nightclub act - Jerry would be the straight man for a funny Dean. That must have been interesting to see!
About the "Nuremberg trial" line: that was something Jerry often said throughout the years. He jokingly made references to Nazi or Arab themes (e.g. a silent audience was compared to a group of Arabs, "and they know what I am".). Dean, not being Jewish, had no real reason to do that, he had no connection to Nazi themes. So I think Jerry did not steal the Nuremberg line from Dean, he made that up himself.
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Post by Classickat on Oct 6, 2020 3:05:39 GMT
I always thought Boeing Boeing would have made a really interesting Martin and lewis film (with Dean in the Tony curtis role) since Jerry would basically be palying straight man to Dean. That film and Dean's film with Tony, Who Was That Lady? (1960) could have worked well as an M&L film.
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