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Post by aajjgg on Dec 26, 2018 3:42:39 GMT
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Post by denise on Dec 26, 2018 16:39:07 GMT
I believe his comedy needed a worthy counterpart to bounce off of - be it Dean or Sammy or whoever else, although not every entertainer would have paired well with him. I think performance-wise he did his best work with Dean, with a few exceptions like Nutty Professor and later serious acting. Even IF someone back then had told him "less is more", he would not have heeded that advice.
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Post by aajjgg on Dec 26, 2018 22:05:02 GMT
True-but if you note he co-wrote most of the specials and even co-directed so nobody would say to him then no-this is not working. To bad. I am curious if this was the period when the critics started to turn against him-if so I now understand why. Curious also why he did not do any more specials after 1960-did NBC decide not to re-new?
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Post by Classickat on Dec 26, 2018 23:06:23 GMT
The Sammy Davis Jr episode is still missing from these, so no these are not all. I don't agree, that it is too much Jerry. Plus most of the skits he did on these episodes were fresh at the time and was his first time performing them for the TV public. They would later make their way into his films, or his late 60's tv show. I think most of these skits are hilarious. The critics always said he was vulgar, low tastes, etc That was nothing new. Critics know nothing really, and are usually not in sync with public tastes anyway. It's as true today as it was back then. Also he definitely had another special, "The Wacky World of Jerry Lewis" from ABC in 1962, and was appearing on other specials and programs (Ed Sullivan, Jack Paar, Garry Moore, Timex, etc) in addition to starting to direct, which undoubtedly took up more of his time. He just didn't want to do them as much anymore, and NBC wanted to go in a different direction as well. aajjgg He was all over the place and made Tony Bennett look bad?? Tony Bennett finally seemed interesting while working alongside Jerry and with their interaction. He's still a bland performer though, and nowhere near Dean's level.
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Post by aajjgg on Dec 27, 2018 3:24:25 GMT
The Sammy Davis episode was from his 1963 ABC show-not these NBC shows. He seemed to be making Tony Bennett into something he wasn't. Re Bennett being a bland performer-I disagree. He is still at it and still drawing in crowds The color episode from this series is painful to watch. I just wished sombody had better control over him at the time. He is in EVERYTHING-all of the time.
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Post by denise on Dec 27, 2018 10:52:22 GMT
aajjgg: Can't watch the shows. No matter which one I click on, nothing happens.
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Post by aajjgg on Dec 27, 2018 16:24:24 GMT
I just tried again and they all work perfectly-try opening in a different web browser perhaps
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Post by anarchistemma on Dec 27, 2018 23:29:25 GMT
i’m not positive, but the specials may have been to fulfill the broken contract with NBC from the split with dean. (‘57-‘60). i think some of the specials are better than others. some shows have the spark of genius we’d expect, but as always, he’s uneven. he seemed to do best with performers he had an off-stage relationship with. i found his work with george jessel, helen traubel, and sophie tucker very sweet. i liked the bit with tony bennett...tony said he wanted to be ‘funny’, not play it straight...and jer’s remark about “italians come and go, i should know i worked with one that left”, was very self aware and funny. he can be “too much’ of a good thing, but that’s who is is/was. for myself, i notice that his sarcasm, which in the early years felt sort of innocent and irreverent, became more pointed and harsh-sounding and less appealing to many viewers/fans. i think he would’ve benefited from working with a comedy-writing partner.
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Post by Classickat on Dec 27, 2018 23:40:41 GMT
The Sammy Davis episode was from his 1963 ABC show-not these NBC shows. He seemed to be making Tony Bennett into something he wasn't. Re Bennett being a bland performer-I disagree. He is still at it and still drawing in crowds The color episode from this series is painful to watch. I just wished sombody had better control over him at the time. He is in EVERYTHING-all of the time. No it isn't the '63 show. I have that one, and the clips of Sammy and Jerry shown on their Bally's special of them from the past is definitely 1958 Jerry and Sammy. Then there is another clip of the show, on the Disney special Alone At the Top. Plus I searched for the episode information years ago, and found a specific date for it/program listing. So yes, such an episode exists. Tony Bennett is an excellent singer, but he never did anything for me to make me a fan or take any interest. Which is sad since I love most performers of that era. "He is in everything all the the time" Well it is the Jerry Lewis Show, and I expect him to be in everything all the time. Otherwise I don't care, unless it's someone else performing that I like.
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Post by anarchistemma on Dec 28, 2018 1:04:26 GMT
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Post by LadyItaly on Dec 29, 2018 21:44:39 GMT
I do not agree that he was "in everything" all the time! It was his show! Jerry was a clown! He wasn't no average entertainer! I do believe that he was great with Dean! Definitely! However, he was just as wonderful on his own! To be honest I enjoyed these specials. I loved the Jerry Lewis show! I love Jerry's humor and his being over the top!( which, in my opinion, was his persona, his character) Jerry was very theatrical and that's what many of his fans love about him. To me he was never "too much" Like I mentioned before he wasn't no average entertainer. Actually he was graceful, charming, hilarious, spontaneous, original, and very funny! He was special and one of a kind! Moreover, It didn't seem to me that he made Bennett look bad at all! I don't see why!??
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Post by denise on Jan 10, 2019 16:20:34 GMT
aajjgg: Now I know why I can't watch anything from this link - I'm not in the US. Too bad, I'd love to see these shows.
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Post by aajjgg on Jan 11, 2019 16:32:37 GMT
I guess you will have to move then. Ha
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